tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11300561.post6905817392282859539..comments2023-10-30T07:18:48.477-07:00Comments on Animal Law Blog: Can ban on crush videos withstand the Supreme Court?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11300561.post-78515942952498412642009-01-10T23:02:00.000-08:002009-01-10T23:02:00.000-08:00I think that distribution of these videos will mak...I think that distribution of these videos will make people more sensitive to animal suffering in the meat industry.<BR/><BR/>Given the level of torture in the meat industry, it does not seem like there is a pressing need to suppress the first amendment.Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06585635503423590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11300561.post-59546230560338196272009-01-08T09:22:00.000-08:002009-01-08T09:22:00.000-08:00Monetary exchange is not a necessary condition for...Monetary exchange is not a necessary condition for possession. But insofar as it is, you have a good point since there's a greater actus reas component beyond merely "not" getting rid of something.Chris Berryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06913695643373817785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11300561.post-24942391057486786052009-01-08T08:12:00.000-08:002009-01-08T08:12:00.000-08:00I don't think the "thought crime" argument stands ...I don't think the "thought crime" argument stands up if money changes hands, because the viewers/possessors are providing the market that fuels the abuse.cambstreasurerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07757408851026721272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11300561.post-45789919305013069312009-01-07T10:22:00.000-08:002009-01-07T10:22:00.000-08:00I believe if child pornography bans can withstand ...I believe if child pornography bans can withstand a constitutional challenge, animal crush videos should too. On the other hand, my libertarian streak wonders if prohibitions on possession in general (as opposed to production or ingestion) are overly invasive by amounting to thought crimes.Chris Berryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06913695643373817785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11300561.post-11956729673626140422009-01-07T02:47:00.000-08:002009-01-07T02:47:00.000-08:00Why can't it be treated as analogous to child porn...Why can't it be treated as analogous to child pornography? I'd be (fairly) happy with a law that permitted "no animals were harmed in producing this film" <I>simulations</I> of cruelty but criminalised making money from films in which animals were <I>actually</I> tortured (with suitable caveats to protect activists filming battery farms and so on).cambstreasurerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07757408851026721272noreply@blogger.com